[Bcma-l] Help!!
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I've asked students not to wear certain garments again, sent them home =
(with pay the first time, if it happens again they make up the time) to =
change, and even, with miss bikini queen, provided a smock that became =
her required uniform.
Fortunately, with 95% of my students, going over the dress code at the =
start and maybe reminding them once or twice over the course of the =
summer seems to do it!
And the weird thing is, miss bikini queen was outstanding in almost =
every other respect - always on time, excellent work ethics, great with =
visitors, never objected to the yucky jobs, usually able to figure out =
how to do things on her own, and good at keeping busy even when it was =
slow! It still mystifies me why she had this issue with wearing shirts.
Tammy
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From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] Help!!
Amen TO THAT!
What DO YOU DO WHEN THEY JUST DON'T SEEM TO GET IT AFTER TALKING ABOUT =
IT ABOUT 15 TIMES?
2008/8/21 <bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca>
I say, a huge, resounding, yes to both. =20
Regarding contracts: at least some form of written documentation =
detailing the start and end dates of the work term, hours of work, =
scheduling, requests for time off, any conditions of the student funding =
that you have to meet, etc, that the student reads and understands, and =
signs to indicate that they have read and understood. I have to fall =
back on this almost every year - inevitably, I have one student who =
wants all sorts of time off, or to leave early to party with friends =
before the semester starts, and that can really mess with the terms of =
your student funding.
And for dress code: there are a lot of students out there who have =
no clue what is appropriate attire for work. I used to not specify a =
dress code - and had students showing up in everything from torn jeans, =
four-inch heels, crop tops and halter tops, and - I am not making this =
up - a bikini, flip-flops, and cut-off shorts because she was leaving =
right after work for a beach party. I have also learned to specify that =
any outfit that allows me to see what colour their bra/thong/boxers are, =
is unacceptable. We just expect neat, clean, shirts with sleeves and =
collar and long enough to be tucked in, no jeans. I think you can =
require a specific look (e.g. any white shirt, any blue or black =
slacks), but if you want your staff to wear a standard uniform you need =
to provide it.
Tammy
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Tammy Hardwick
Manager,
Creston & District Museum & Archives
219 Devon Street, Creston, BC V0B 1G3
Phone (250) 428-9262
Fax (250) 428-3324
Email mail@creston.museum.bc.ca
www.creston.museum.bc.ca
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From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
To: BCMA-L=20
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: [Bcma-l] Help!!
A couple of questions ??=20
Being new to the museum scene, I need all the help I can get!
1 Do museums generally enter into contracts with the students =
they employ ? =20
2 Are dress codes a general rule for museum staff ?
=
Thanks=20
Ted Scott, Pres.
Parksville & Dist. Historical Society
1245 E.Island Hwy.=20
Parksville B.C V9P2E5
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Larry A. Ewashen
Doukhobor Discovery Centre
112 Heritage Way
Castlegar BC V1N 4M5
www.Doukhobor-Museum.org
250-365-5327
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've asked students not to wear certain =
garments=20
again, sent them home (with pay the first time, if it happens again they =
make up=20
the time) to change, and even, with miss bikini queen, provided a smock =
that=20
became her required uniform.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fortunately, with 95% of my students, =
going over=20
the dress code at the start and maybe reminding them once or twice over =
the=20
course of the summer seems to do it!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And the weird thing is, miss bikini =
queen was=20
outstanding in almost every other respect - always on time, excellent =
work=20
ethics, great with visitors, never objected to the yucky jobs, usually =
able to=20
figure out how to do things on her own, and good at keeping busy even =
when it=20
was slow! It still mystifies me why she had this issue with =
wearing=20
shirts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tammy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>Amen TO THAT!</DIV>
<DIV>What DO YOU DO WHEN THEY JUST DON'T SEEM TO GET IT AFTER TALKING =
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ABOUT 15 TIMES?<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2008/8/21 <SPAN dir=3Dltr><<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I say, a huge, resounding, yes to =
both. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regarding contracts: at least some =
form of=20
written documentation detailing the start and end dates of the work =
term,=20
hours of work, scheduling, requests for time off, any conditions of =
the=20
student funding that you have to meet, etc, that the student reads =
and=20
understands, and signs to indicate that they have read and =
understood. =20
I have to fall back on this almost every year - inevitably, I have =
one=20
student who wants all sorts of time off, or to leave early to party =
with=20
friends before the semester starts, and that can really mess with =
the terms=20
of your student funding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And for dress code: there are a lot =
of students=20
out there who have no clue what is appropriate attire for =
work. I used=20
to not specify a dress code - and had students showing up in =
everything from=20
torn jeans, four-inch heels, crop tops and halter tops, and - I am =
not=20
making this up - a bikini, flip-flops, and cut-off=20
shorts because she was leaving right after work for a beach=20
party. I have also learned to specify that any outfit that =
allows me=20
to see what colour their bra/thong/boxers are, is =
unacceptable. We=20
just expect neat, clean, shirts with sleeves and collar and long =
enough to=20
be tucked in, no jeans. I think you can require a specific =
look (e.g.=20
any white shirt, any blue or black slacks), but if you want your =
staff to=20
wear a standard uniform you need to provide it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tammy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<BR>Tammy=20
Hardwick<BR>Manager,<BR>Creston & District Museum & =
Archives<BR>219=20
Devon Street, Creston, BC V0B 1G3<BR>Phone (250) 428-9262<BR>Fax =
(250)=20
428-3324<BR>Email <A href=3D"mailto:mail@creston.museum.bc.ca"=20
target=3D_blank>mail@creston.museum.bc.ca</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.creston.museum.bc.ca/"=20
target=3D_blank>www.creston.museum.bc.ca</A></FONT></DIV>
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2008 11:10=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Bcma-l] =
Help!!</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>A couple of=20
questions ?? </FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Being new to the museum scene, I =
need all the=20
help I can get!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>1 Do museums generally =
enter into=20
contracts with the students they employ ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>2 Are dress =
codes=20
a general rule for museum staff ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> =20
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Thanks </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> Ted Scott,=20
Pres.<BR>Parksville & Dist. Historical Society<BR>1245 =
E.Island Hwy.=20
<BR>Parksville B.C =
V9P2E5<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV><PRE>No virus found in this =
incoming message.
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<BR>Larry=20
A. Ewashen<BR>Doukhobor Discovery Centre<BR>112 Heritage =
Way<BR>Castlegar BC=20
V1N 4M5<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.Doukhobor-Museum.org">www.Doukhobor-Museum.org</A><BR>=
250-365-5327<BR></DIV><PRE>No virus found in this incoming message.
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