[Bcma-l] (Fwd) CMA Clip Serv: Museum of Ideas, Not Atorcity &
Insult
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Hmmm..... Lots of mistreatment to consider, and agreed, good points. I'd s=
ay that the best place to start might be with the people who inhabited thes=
e lands long before the Irish, Doukhobors and many others from around the w=
orld arrived here. Please don't misunderstand, I don't mean to diminish the=
treatment of any minorities in Canada, everyone deserves a voice, but I'd =
say that Aboriginal people, especially Aboriginal women who remain some of =
the most disenfranchised, marginalized and poorest demographics in Canada -=
one of the richest countries in the world, deserve to be heard first! The=
re's room for everyone, looks like temporary exhibitions might be a key.
Gayle E. Liman
Research Curator
Westbank First Nation
1900 Quail Lane
Westbank, BC V4T 2H3
250-768-0227
From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca [mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=
]
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:18 PM
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] (Fwd) CMA Clip Serv: Museum of Ideas, Not Atorcity & =
Insult
Many good points.
A couple of years ago I spent time with the Dean of Law Studies at the U of=
Vic, who was writing a book on the mistreatment of minorities by the domin=
ion government.
Among others, the Doukhobors figured prominently in this.
Should all of these groups be in the afore mentioned museum?
Here at the Doukhobor Discovery Centre we are pleased to present the Doukho=
bor experience [and mistreatment] of the Doukhobors in Canada.
We are fortunate we can do this.
If we didn't, I doubt that we too, would have a corner in this museum.
An Irish connection: Markers to the Irish and the Doukhobors stand in close=
proximity to each other on the quarantine island of Grosse Isle.
2009/5/25 <bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca<mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.b=
c.ca>>
EDITORIAL
Museum of ideas, not of atrocity and insult
David O'Brien, Winnipeg Free Press, Sunday, May 24, 2009
In the early days of planning for the Canadian Museum for Human Rights, whe=
n the concept was still being developed by the Asper family, I told one of =
their executives that I was sure the Irish story would figure prominently i=
n the new facility and would, no doubt, have its own permanent exhibit. I w=
as joking, of course, but the executive wasn't laughing. He wasn't even smi=
ling. The grim poker face that greeted my lame attempt at humour said it al=
l, namely that deciding which stories to tell, who would tell them and how,=
was going to be a painful exercise. The fear was that every group in Canad=
a and beyond would demand its own pride of place in the museum, or at least=
a corner office.
Clearly, if that was the expectation, there was going to be a lot of disapp=
ointment, particularly if groups like the Irish demanded some room in the c=
astle.
Then again, why not the Irish story? It's a tale of woe loaded with hatred,=
famine, cultural genocide and religious persecution, and, finally, peace, =
sort of. The words holocaust and ethnic cleansing have even been used in co=
nnection with Irish suffering over the centuries. In other words, the Emera=
ld Isle has all the themes that any respectable museum dedicated to human r=
ights would need to educate visitors about respect for the dignity of man. =
All rolled into one convenient package.
The Irish, it is said, saved civilization when Christian monks and scribes =
laboured to protect classic literature from the barbarians who ravaged Euro=
pe when the Roman Empire collapsed. It was the Irish, or so the story goes,=
who introduced this literature back into continental Europe. Could this ne=
w museum, then, be an opportunity for the land of saints and poets to save =
us once again, from ourselves?
Of course, I'm joking, but then again, maybe not. Maybe there's an O'Grady =
or an O'Malley out there who believes the Irish tragedy is too big to ignor=
e. And who's to say he or she would be wrong?
Someone has to make those decisions, but it doesn't have to be a painful ex=
ercise. What needs to be understood, however, is that the museum really isn=
't a museum in the conventional sense. It's actually an education centre, a=
school, if you like. The only reason it was called a museum, besides the f=
act that museum sounds better than
educational centre, is so that it would fall within federal guidelines for =
receiving museum funding and support.
The federal government doesn't operate schools, but it does manage national=
museums. It's not that museums aren't educational, but they are built arou=
nd fixed objects and collections, whereas the human rights museum is being =
built around ideas with the express goal of compelling visitors to examine =
their prejudices and, according to the government's corporate plan, "to enc=
ourage reflection and dialogue."
As it stands, the plan includes several permanent themes, including the Hol=
ocaust, Canadian stories, other historical issues that will vary with time,=
contemporary issues, forums for discussion, and multi- media presentations=
on a variety of human rights questions.
Key documents, such as the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and a h=
eroes gallery, will also have a permanent place. All of this is subject to =
approval by the museum's board of trustees, but the basic concepts are not =
expected to change that much.
What this means is that the victims of Mao Zedong and Josef Stalin, who wer=
e responsible for some of the worst crimes against humanity, should not exp=
ect to see their stories enshrined at the museum. It doesn't mean that ther=
e isn't room for them in some form. In a museum of ideas, everything is pos=
sible, but it's also important
to note that every atrocity is not equal or equally valid as a teaching too=
l.
The museum will be a balance of historical and contemporary issues, with th=
e latter category subject to more fluidity than the first.
I've argued before that the Holocaust - a crime committed by a modern, soph=
isticated culture - belongs in the museum because of its immense educationa=
l value and I won't labour the point any more.
The Irish may feel aggrieved by this slight - who, after all, can forget th=
e Battle of the Boyne and the Twelfth of July - but they will have to adjus=
t, perhaps by building their own museum in Ireland.
Then again, is that really fair to the Irish? Is anyone else being asked to=
build their own museum if they're unhappy with their role in our facility?
It sounds difficult, but it doesn't have to be. Just think of it as a place=
that wants to change behaviour and inspire action, as opposed to serving a=
s a repository for every insult that was ever hurled.
The Irish will understand.
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hmmm….. Lots of mistreatment to consider, and agreed, =
good
points. I’d say that the best place to start might be with the
people who inhabited these lands long before the Irish, Doukhobors and many=
others
from around the world arrived here. Please don’t misunderstand, I don=
’t
mean to diminish the treatment of any minorities in Canada, everyone deserv=
es a
voice, but I’d say that Aboriginal people, especially Aboriginal wome=
n
who remain some of the most disenfranchised, marginalized and poorest
demographics in Canada - one of the richest countries in the world, deserve=
to
be heard first! There’s room for everyone, looks like temporary
exhibitions might be a key.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>Gayle E. Liman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>Research Curator<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>Westbank First Nation<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";
color:#C00000'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>1900 Quail Lane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>Westbank, BC V4T 2H3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>250-768-0227<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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0in 0in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca [mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 25, 2009 3:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bcma-l] (Fwd) CMA Clip Serv: Museum of Ideas, Not Ator=
city
& Insult<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Many good points.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>A couple of years ago I spent time with the Dean of La=
w
Studies at the U of Vic, who was writing a book on the mistreatment of
minorities by the dominion government.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Among others, the Doukhobors figured prominently in th=
is.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Should all of these groups be in the afore mentioned <=
em>museum?</em><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Here at the Doukhobor Discovery Centre we are pleased =
to
present the Doukhobor experience [and mistreatment] of the Doukhobors in
Canada.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>We are fortunate we can do this.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>If we didn't, I doubt that we too, would have a corner=
in
this museum.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>An Irish connection: Ma=
rkers to
the Irish and the Doukhobors stand in close proximity to each other on the
quarantine island of Grosse Isle. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>2009/5/25 <<a href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsas=
sn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:8.0pt'>EDITORIAL</span></b=
> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:16.0pt'>Museum of ideas, n=
ot of
atrocity and insult</span></b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>David O'Brien, Winnip=
eg Free
Press, Sunday, May 24, 2009</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>In the early days of planning for the Canadian Museum =
for
Human Rights, when the concept was still being developed by the Asper famil=
y, I
told one of their executives that I was sure the Irish story would figure
prominently in the new facility and would, no doubt, have its own permanent
exhibit. I was joking, of course, but the executive wasn’t laughing. =
He
wasn’t even smiling. The grim poker face that greeted my lame attempt=
at
humour said it all, namely that deciding which stories to tell, who would t=
ell them
and how, was going to be a painful exercise. The fear was that every group =
in
Canada and beyond would demand its own pride of place in the museum, or at
least a corner office. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Clearly, if that was the expectation, there was going =
to be
a lot of disappointment, particularly if groups like the Irish demanded som=
e
room in the castle. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Then again, why not the Irish story? It’s a tale=
of
woe loaded with hatred, famine, cultural genocide and religious persecution=
,
and, finally, peace, sort of. The words holocaust and ethnic cleansing have
even been used in connection with Irish suffering over the centuries. In ot=
her
words, the Emerald Isle has all the themes that any respectable museum
dedicated to human rights would need to educate visitors about respect for =
the
dignity of man. All rolled into one convenient package. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The Irish, it is said, saved civilization when Christi=
an
monks and scribes laboured to protect classic literature from the barbarian=
s
who ravaged Europe when the Roman Empire collapsed. It was the Irish, or so=
the
story goes, who introduced this literature back into continental Europe. Co=
uld
this new museum, then, be an opportunity for the land of saints and poets t=
o
save us once again, from ourselves? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Of course, I’m joking, but then again, maybe not=
.
Maybe there’s an O’Grady or an O’Malley out there who
believes the Irish tragedy is too big to ignore. And who’s to say he =
or
she would be wrong? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Someone has to make those decisions, but it doesn̵=
7;t
have to be a painful exercise. What needs to be understood, however, is tha=
t
the museum really isn’t a museum in the conventional sense. It’=
s
actually an education centre, a school, if you like. The only reason it was
called a museum, besides the fact that museum sounds better than <o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>educational centre, is so that it would fall within fe=
deral
guidelines for receiving museum funding and support. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The federal government doesn’t operate schools, =
but it
does manage national museums. It’s not that museums aren’t
educational, but they are built around fixed objects and collections, where=
as
the human rights museum is being built around ideas with the express goal o=
f
compelling visitors to examine their prejudices and, according to the
government’s corporate plan, "to encourage reflection and
dialogue." <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>As it stands, the plan includes several permanent them=
es,
including the Holocaust, Canadian stories, other historical issues that wil=
l
vary with time, contemporary issues, forums for discussion, and multi- medi=
a
presentations on a variety of human rights questions. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Key documents, such as the Canadian Charter of Rights =
and
Freedoms, and a heroes gallery, will also have a permanent place. All of th=
is
is subject to approval by the museum’s board of trustees, but the bas=
ic
concepts are not expected to change that much. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>What this means is that the victims of Mao Zedong and =
Josef
Stalin, who were responsible for some of the worst crimes against humanity,
should not expect to see their stories enshrined at the museum. It
doesn’t mean that there isn’t room for them in some form. In a
museum of ideas, everything is possible, but it’s also important <o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>to note that every atrocity is not equal or equally va=
lid as
a teaching tool. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The museum will be a balance of historical and contemp=
orary
issues, with the latter category subject to more fluidity than the first. <=
o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I’ve argued before that the Holocaust — a =
crime
committed by a modern, sophisticated culture — belongs in the museum
because of its immense educational value and I won’t labour the point=
any
more. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The Irish may feel aggrieved by this slight — wh=
o,
after all, can forget the Battle of the Boyne and the Twelfth of July ̵=
2;
but they will have to adjust, perhaps by building their own museum in Irela=
nd. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Then again, is that really fair to the Irish? Is anyon=
e else
being asked to build their own museum if they’re unhappy with their r=
ole
in our facility? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>It sounds difficult, but it doesn’t have to be. =
Just
think of it as a place that wants to change behaviour and inspire action, a=
s
opposed to serving as a repository for every insult that was ever hurled. <=
o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>The Irish will understand. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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