[Bcma-l] (Fwd) CMA Clip Serv: Museum of Ideas, Not Atorcity & Insult
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Museums of Attitudes, Morals and Ethics certainly walk a fine line.
In 2000, I chanced to visit the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles, and =
was struck by the fact that it was more a museum of intolerance than of =
tolerance. All the exhibits focused on atrocities. One memorable =
exhibit had a map of the USA with stars showing the locations of =
chapters of the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis and other hate groups. I do not =
recall an exhibit about champions of tolerance and their =
accomplishments, only visuals showing those who had been gunned down. =
There was nothing to inspire new attitudes except perhaps the personal =
shock of seeing examples of degradation. Considering the fact that it =
was called a Museum and that you had to pay admission, it seemed to be =
totally geared to speaking to those already committed to the mind-set of =
the designers.
The entry to the museum's exhibits began favourably with a little =
introductory lecture about the need to promote tolerance in our world, =
and then a choice of entry to the exhibit gallery through either of two =
doors, one with a big sign saying "Those with prejudice enter here." and =
the other saying Those without prejudice enter here." The second one =
was locked shut, so you actually had no real choice which to go through. =
From there on the guided tour became progressively domineering, =
eventually leaving me with the feeling of being totally oppressed and =
dominated by the guide and the exhibit sequence. Although the dioramic =
galleries representing second world war gas chambers were emotionally =
provoking, I couldn't wait to get out of there because of the drill =
sergeant style of the guide. The oppressee had become oppressor in =
telling the story and demanding your quiet unquestioning acceptance of =
the routine. Discussion was not allowed.
I see by their current web site that many new exhibits are now there, =
seemingly continuing to feature atrocities. I truly hope that somewhere =
there is a dynamic tribute to those who have exhibited the greatness of =
human spirit instead of only the negative potential. It is so easy to =
retell the tales of woe, but in our current shared culture it seems =
challenging to vigorously celebrate the positive potentials and =
accomplishments that might teach and encourage inspirational new action =
rather than simple avoidance of bad action.
With continued hope,
Cuyler Page
Heritage Interpretation Services
Victoria, BC
----- Original Message -----=20
From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] (Fwd) CMA Clip Serv: Museum of Ideas, Not =
Atorcity & Insult
Many good points.
A couple of years ago I spent time with the Dean of Law Studies at the =
U of Vic, who was writing a book on the mistreatment of minorities by =
the dominion government.
Among others, the Doukhobors figured prominently in this.
Should all of these groups be in the afore mentioned museum?
Here at the Doukhobor Discovery Centre we are pleased to present the =
Doukhobor experience [and mistreatment] of the Doukhobors in Canada.
We are fortunate we can do this.
If we didn't, I doubt that we too, would have a corner in this museum.
An Irish connection: Markers to the Irish and the Doukhobors stand in =
close proximity to each other on the quarantine island of Grosse Isle.=20
2009/5/25 <bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca>
EDITORIAL=20
Museum of ideas, not of atrocity and insult=20
David O'Brien, Winnipeg Free Press, Sunday, May 24, 2009=20
In the early days of planning for the Canadian Museum for Human =
Rights, when the concept was still being developed by the Asper family, =
I told one of their executives that I was sure the Irish story would =
figure prominently in the new facility and would, no doubt, have its own =
permanent exhibit. I was joking, of course, but the executive wasn=92t =
laughing. He wasn=92t even smiling. The grim poker face that greeted my =
lame attempt at humour said it all, namely that deciding which stories =
to tell, who would tell them and how, was going to be a painful =
exercise. The fear was that every group in Canada and beyond would =
demand its own pride of place in the museum, or at least a corner =
office.=20
Clearly, if that was the expectation, there was going to be a lot of =
disappointment, particularly if groups like the Irish demanded some room =
in the castle.=20
Then again, why not the Irish story? It=92s a tale of woe loaded =
with hatred, famine, cultural genocide and religious persecution, and, =
finally, peace, sort of. The words holocaust and ethnic cleansing have =
even been used in connection with Irish suffering over the centuries. In =
other words, the Emerald Isle has all the themes that any respectable =
museum dedicated to human rights would need to educate visitors about =
respect for the dignity of man. All rolled into one convenient package.=20
The Irish, it is said, saved civilization when Christian monks and =
scribes laboured to protect classic literature from the barbarians who =
ravaged Europe when the Roman Empire collapsed. It was the Irish, or so =
the story goes, who introduced this literature back into continental =
Europe. Could this new museum, then, be an opportunity for the land of =
saints and poets to save us once again, from ourselves?=20
Of course, I=92m joking, but then again, maybe not. Maybe there=92s =
an O=92Grady or an O=92Malley out there who believes the Irish tragedy =
is too big to ignore. And who=92s to say he or she would be wrong?=20
Someone has to make those decisions, but it doesn=92t have to be a =
painful exercise. What needs to be understood, however, is that the =
museum really isn=92t a museum in the conventional sense. It=92s =
actually an education centre, a school, if you like. The only reason it =
was called a museum, besides the fact that museum sounds better than=20
educational centre, is so that it would fall within federal =
guidelines for receiving museum funding and support.=20
The federal government doesn=92t operate schools, but it does manage =
national museums. It=92s not that museums aren=92t educational, but they =
are built around fixed objects and collections, whereas the human rights =
museum is being built around ideas with the express goal of compelling =
visitors to examine their prejudices and, according to the =
government=92s corporate plan, "to encourage reflection and dialogue."=20
As it stands, the plan includes several permanent themes, including =
the Holocaust, Canadian stories, other historical issues that will vary =
with time, contemporary issues, forums for discussion, and multi- media =
presentations on a variety of human rights questions.=20
Key documents, such as the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, =
and a heroes gallery, will also have a permanent place. All of this is =
subject to approval by the museum=92s board of trustees, but the basic =
concepts are not expected to change that much.=20
What this means is that the victims of Mao Zedong and Josef Stalin, =
who were responsible for some of the worst crimes against humanity, =
should not expect to see their stories enshrined at the museum. It =
doesn=92t mean that there isn=92t room for them in some form. In a =
museum of ideas, everything is possible, but it=92s also important=20
to note that every atrocity is not equal or equally valid as a =
teaching tool.=20
The museum will be a balance of historical and contemporary issues, =
with the latter category subject to more fluidity than the first.=20
I=92ve argued before that the Holocaust =97 a crime committed by a =
modern, sophisticated culture =97 belongs in the museum because of its =
immense educational value and I won=92t labour the point any more.=20
The Irish may feel aggrieved by this slight =97 who, after all, can =
forget the Battle of the Boyne and the Twelfth of July =97 but they will =
have to adjust, perhaps by building their own museum in Ireland.=20
Then again, is that really fair to the Irish? Is anyone else being =
asked to build their own museum if they=92re unhappy with their role in =
our facility?=20
It sounds difficult, but it doesn=92t have to be. Just think of it =
as a place that wants to change behaviour and inspire action, as opposed =
to serving as a repository for every insult that was ever hurled.=20
The Irish will understand.=20
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Bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca http://hp.bccna.bc.ca/mailman/listinfo/bcma-l=20
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Larry A. Ewashen
Doukhobor Discovery Centre
112 Heritage Way
Castlegar BC V1N 4M5
www.Doukhobor-Museum.org
250-365-5327
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Museums of Attitudes, Morals and Ethics =
certainly=20
walk a fine line.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In 2000, I chanced to visit the =
Museum of=20
Tolerance in Los Angeles, and was struck by the fact that it was more a =
museum=20
of intolerance than of tolerance. All the exhibits focused =
on=20
atrocities. One memorable exhibit had a map of the USA with stars =
showing=20
the locations of chapters of the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis and other =
hate=20
groups. I do not recall an exhibit about champions of tolerance =
and their=20
accomplishments, only visuals showing those who had been gunned =
down. =20
There was nothing to inspire new attitudes except perhaps the personal =
shock of=20
seeing examples of degradation. Considering the fact that it =
was=20
called a Museum and that you had to pay admission, it seemed to be =
totally=20
geared to speaking to those already committed to the mind-set of the=20
designers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The entry to the museum's =
exhibits began=20
favourably with a little introductory lecture about the need to promote=20
tolerance in our world, and then a choice of entry to the exhibit =
gallery=20
through either of two doors, one with a big sign saying "Those with =
prejudice=20
enter here." and the other saying Those without prejudice enter=20
here." The second one was locked shut, so you actually had =
no real=20
choice which to go through. From there on the guided tour =
became=20
progressively domineering, eventually leaving me with the feeling of =
being=20
totally oppressed and dominated by the guide and the exhibit=20
sequence. Although the dioramic galleries representing =
second world=20
war gas chambers were emotionally provoking, I couldn't wait to get out =
of there=20
because of the drill sergeant style of the guide. The =
oppressee had=20
become oppressor in telling the story and demanding your quiet =
unquestioning=20
acceptance of the routine. Discussion was not =
allowed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I see by their current web site that =
many new=20
exhibits are now there, seemingly continuing to feature =
atrocities. I=20
truly hope that somewhere there is a dynamic tribute to those =
who have=20
exhibited the greatness of human spirit instead of only the negative=20
potential. It is so easy to retell the tales of woe, but in =
our=20
current shared culture it seems challenging to vigorously celebrate =
the=20
positive potentials and accomplishments that might teach and=20
encourage inspirational new action rather than simple avoidance of =
bad=20
action.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With continued hope,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cuyler Page</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Heritage Interpretation =
Services</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Victoria, BC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.b=
c.ca</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dbcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 25, 2009 3:17 =
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bcma-l] (Fwd) CMA =
Clip=20
Serv: Museum of Ideas, Not Atorcity & Insult</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Many good points.</DIV>
<DIV>A couple of years ago I spent time with the Dean of Law Studies =
at the U=20
of Vic, who was writing a book on the mistreatment of minorities by =
the=20
dominion government.</DIV>
<DIV>Among others, the Doukhobors figured prominently in this.</DIV>
<DIV>Should all of these groups be in the afore mentioned=20
<EM>museum?</EM></DIV>
<DIV>Here at the Doukhobor Discovery Centre we are pleased to present =
the=20
Doukhobor experience [and mistreatment] of the Doukhobors in =
Canada.</DIV>
<DIV>We are fortunate we can do this.</DIV>
<DIV>If we didn't, I doubt that we too, would have a corner in this=20
museum.</DIV>
<DIV>An Irish connection: Markers to the Irish and the Doukhobors =
stand in=20
close proximity to each other on the quarantine island of Grosse=20
Isle. <BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/5/25 <SPAN dir=3Dltr><<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.b=
c.ca</A>></SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">
<DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><B>EDITORIAL</B></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D4><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16pt"><B>Museum of ideas, not of atrocity and=20
insult</B></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">David O'Brien, Winnipeg Free Press, =
Sunday, May 24,=20
2009</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In the early days of planning for the =
Canadian=20
Museum for Human Rights, when the concept was still being developed =
by the=20
Asper family, I told one of their executives that I was sure the =
Irish story=20
would figure prominently in the new facility and would, no doubt, =
have its=20
own permanent exhibit. I was joking, of course, but the executive =
wasn=92t=20
laughing. He wasn=92t even smiling. The grim poker face that greeted =
my lame=20
attempt at humour said it all, namely that deciding which stories to =
tell,=20
who would tell them and how, was going to be a painful exercise. The =
fear=20
was that every group in Canada and beyond would demand its own pride =
of=20
place in the museum, or at least a corner office.</SPAN></FONT> =
</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Clearly, if that was the expectation, =
there was=20
going to be a lot of disappointment, particularly if groups like the =
Irish=20
demanded some room in the castle.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Then again, why not the Irish story? =
It=92s a tale of=20
woe loaded with hatred, famine, cultural genocide and religious =
persecution,=20
and, finally, peace, sort of. The words holocaust and ethnic =
cleansing have=20
even been used in connection with Irish suffering over the =
centuries. In=20
other words, the Emerald Isle has all the themes that any =
respectable museum=20
dedicated to human rights would need to educate visitors about =
respect for=20
the dignity of man. All rolled into one convenient =
package.</SPAN></FONT>=20
</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Irish, it is said, saved civilization =
when=20
Christian monks and scribes laboured to protect classic literature =
from the=20
barbarians who ravaged Europe when the Roman Empire collapsed. It =
was the=20
Irish, or so the story goes, who introduced this literature back =
into=20
continental Europe. Could this new museum, then, be an opportunity =
for the=20
land of saints and poets to save us once again, from=20
ourselves?</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Of course, I=92m joking, but then again, =
maybe not.=20
Maybe there=92s an O=92Grady or an O=92Malley out there who believes =
the Irish=20
tragedy is too big to ignore. And who=92s to say he or she would be=20
wrong?</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Someone has to make those decisions, but =
it doesn=92t=20
have to be a painful exercise. What needs to be understood, however, =
is that=20
the museum really isn=92t a museum in the conventional sense. It=92s =
actually an=20
education centre, a school, if you like. The only reason it was =
called a=20
museum, besides the fact that museum sounds better =
than</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">educational centre, is so that it would =
fall within=20
federal guidelines for receiving museum funding and =
support.</SPAN></FONT>=20
</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The federal government doesn=92t operate =
schools, but=20
it does manage national museums. It=92s not that museums aren=92t =
educational,=20
but they are built around fixed objects and collections, whereas the =
human=20
rights museum is being built around ideas with the express goal of=20
compelling visitors to examine their prejudices and, according to =
the=20
government=92s corporate plan, "to encourage reflection and=20
dialogue."</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As it stands, the plan includes several =
permanent=20
themes, including the Holocaust, Canadian stories, other historical =
issues=20
that will vary with time, contemporary issues, forums for =
discussion, and=20
multi- media presentations on a variety of human rights=20
questions.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Key documents, such as the Canadian =
Charter of=20
Rights and Freedoms, and a heroes gallery, will also have a =
permanent place.=20
All of this is subject to approval by the museum=92s board of =
trustees, but=20
the basic concepts are not expected to change that =
much.</SPAN></FONT>=20
</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What this means is that the victims of Mao =
Zedong=20
and Josef Stalin, who were responsible for some of the worst crimes =
against=20
humanity, should not expect to see their stories enshrined at the =
museum. It=20
doesn=92t mean that there isn=92t room for them in some form. In a =
museum of=20
ideas, everything is possible, but it=92s also =
important</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">to note that every atrocity is not equal =
or equally=20
valid as a teaching tool.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The museum will be a balance of historical =
and=20
contemporary issues, with the latter category subject to more =
fluidity than=20
the first.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I=92ve argued before that the Holocaust =
=97 a crime=20
committed by a modern, sophisticated culture =97 belongs in the =
museum because=20
of its immense educational value and I won=92t labour the point any=20
more.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Irish may feel aggrieved by this =
slight =97 who,=20
after all, can forget the Battle of the Boyne and the Twelfth of =
July =97 but=20
they will have to adjust, perhaps by building their own museum in=20
Ireland.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Then again, is that really fair to the =
Irish? Is=20
anyone else being asked to build their own museum if they=92re =
unhappy with=20
their role in our facility?</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It sounds difficult, but it doesn=92t have =
to be. Just=20
think of it as a place that wants to change behaviour and inspire =
action, as=20
opposed to serving as a repository for every insult that was ever=20
hurled.</SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Irish will understand.</SPAN></FONT> =
</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--- 30 =
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</DIV>
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align=3Dleft> </DIV></DIV>__________________________________________=
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<DIV></DIV><BR>-- <BR>Larry A. Ewashen<BR>Doukhobor Discovery =
Centre<BR>112=20
Heritage Way<BR>Castlegar BC V1N 4M5<BR><A=20
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