[BCMA] Two Rail Cars to Donate

Mon Mar 26 15:54:59 PDT 2012

OK; thanks for the quick response, Don.

Can certainly understand the need to keep such a holding as your's under a 
critical mass. As you know, many of the collections of vintage rolling stock 
across the country are too large for their available resources - trackage, 
shops, volunteer labour, restoration funds, etc. Has there ever been any 
thought at a collaborative effort to get federal funds for a qualitative 
study that would identify on both regional and national levels what motive 
and rolling stock need be preserved on historical grounds? That is, specific 
existing pieces?

It would be more than welcome to see a major culling wherein redundant 
pieces would be sold-off for scrap, containers, parts, etc. and the proceeds 
turned exclusively to restoring and preserving the, say, 25 - 30% that 
remains.

A sanctioned, systematic effort along that line is highly preferable to the 
sad decline of one outfit after another having to peel this piece or that 
off its roster without any benefit other than having fewer items to rust 
away.

Does a strong national railway preservation association exist? If not, could 
one be formed?

Dan

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> Hi Dan:
>
> Thanks for the note, unfortunately WCRA is not able to consider these 
> items
> for preservation in our collection.
> WCRA already has an ex CPR tender 2366 as well as a couple of PGE tank 
> cars,
> we are not in a position to have storage space or maintenance funds for 
> the
> surplus Prince George items.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Don Evans
> President Emeritus
> West Coast Railway Association
> 604-988-3435 direct
> www.wcra.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: Robert D. Turner; Dan Gallacher; trains at pgrfm.bc.ca; 
> president at wcra.org;
> reservation at kettlevalleyrail.org
> Subject: Re: [BCMA] Two Rail Cars to Donate
>
> Hello PGRFM,
>
>    In the mid-70s I was part of a team that created and ran the [RBCM]
> "Museum Train", pulled mainly by locomotive 3716 with the tender now in 
> your
>
> hands.
>
>    That locomotive eventually was added to the "Royal Hudson" equipment as
> a back-up for 2860. According to my colleague, Bob Turner, BCRail replaced
> the tender currently in your in your possession with a larger unit to run
> with 3716.
>
>    Ultimately, the Kettle Valley Railway Museum (Summerland) took the
> latter locomotive in a transfer from BCRail, restored it wonderfully,
> operates it each year, but never acquired the original (smaller) tender -
> just the larger one used during the "Royal Hudson" heydays.
>
>    Thus the KVHR never possesed this tender, (it went directly to Prince
> George instead), and since the Museum has no rail link to the outside, I
> doubt it would want to pay the cartage to acquire it now, especially given
> its present condition. But you never know . . . . it would make a worthy
> static display at Summerland and historically, a most valid acquisition
> given its link to their prime artifact, locomotive 3716.
>
> This leaves the West Coast Railway Association at Squamish as a prime
> candidate to take the original 3716 tender into its permanent collection.
> after all, the "Royal Hudson" sits there today, 3716 operated regularly on
> the line through there, and the Ass'n has the capacity in its shops and
> volunteer workforce to both resore and preserve the tender.
>
> What say you to this idea, PGRFM and WCRA? Can I assist in any way?
>
> Dan Gallacher, PhD, FCMA
> curator emeritus, Canadian Museum of Civilization
>
>
>
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> Subject: [BCMA] Two Rail Cars to Donate
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>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>> Last year, the Prince George Railway and Forestry Museum was given notice
>> that we'd have to move our large collection of rail cars stored at the
>> local
>> CN yard. We are now sorting through this collection of rolling stock, and
>> we
>> currently have two historic rail cars that are available for
>> trading/donation to other museums.
>>
>> BCOL 1933 Tanker Car:
>>
>> The first car is the BCOL 1933 Tank Car. This tanker car has three domes
>> and
>> is colored green.  It measures approx. 1215 cm long, 275 cm wide, and 315
>> cm
>> in height. In the middle of the car, there is a ladder that goes up to a
>> metal walkway running the length of the car. This car started out as
>> Pacific
>> Great Eastern 1933. It may have been made around 1920, likely by American
>> Car & Foundry of St. Charles, Missouri. In its later years, this tanker
>> was
>> filled with water and used by fire-fighters for hazardous material 
>> drills.
>> The rivets that hold it together make it a relatively unique tanker, as
>> later cars were welded. The wheels are quite rusty and some wood needs
>> replacement, but the car itself is in decent condition.
>>
>> BCOL 3716 Tender:
>>
>> The second car is the BCOL 3716 Tender Car. Built in 1912 by Montreal
>> Locomotive Works, this black tender was made for use with Canadian 
>> Pacific
>> steam locomotive 3716 and held 7000 gallons of water and 10 tons of coal.
>> It
>> was later converted to hold oil. It was originally owned by the Kettle
>> Valley Railway Museum, which donated it to us after determining that it
>> was
>> too small for their present needs. It is rusty on the sides and requires
>> some restoration.
>>
>> Attached are some photos of the vehicles.
>>
>> Our deadline for the move is the end of April, so if you are interested
>> please let us know as soon as possible.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Julianna Weisgarber, Curatorial Assistant
>> Prince George Railway and Forestry Museum
>> 850 River Road
>> Prince George, BC
>> V2L 5S8
>> (250) 563-7351
>> curator at pgrfm.bc.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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