[BCMA] Building Security Issues - Thank You!

Thu Apr 16 15:09:37 PDT 2015

Thank you so much to everyone who has chimed in with advice and leads for me
to follow up on, I very much appreciate it.

I should clarify a couple of things about the project that I am planning.
First of all, it would by no means be an ugly security fence, I am bringing
forward quotes for 3 foot high wrought iron fences only.  I am fully aware
that a fence can be jumped over and this is why I feel that the only way
said fence would be effective is by also having cameras.  Not cameras that
simply record activity, but cameras on motion detection 24/7, that are
monitored by an alarm company who will call the police immediately in the
case of trespassing.  I have my doubts that either of these methods would be
effective without the other.  I would in no way be planning on having the
Society pay for the project, I just want to present the complete idea to
council in the hopes that they will see it worthwhile of funding.  I fear
that if I leave it up to them to figure out, I WILL end up with an ugly
security fence or some other "solution" that I do not agree with.

As far as an audio deterrent, I actually had loud gramophone music piped out
onto the porch at all hours last summer and I was shocked out the way people
did not care and just put up with it.  Not only that, but they would often
crank up their own music in an attempt to drown out mine which of course
made the porch look like even more of a hangout.  The seniors housing unit
across the street eventually complained because some of the residents said
they couldn't sleep and I had to turn it off.  I am hesitant to try a
mosquito due to the fact that the music was so ineffective and also because
I really DON'T want the Museum to seem so uninviting.  I think walking by a
heritage building with a nice wrought iron fence is much nicer than one with
a high pitched squeal coming from it, but perhaps that is only me that think
so..?

As far as lighting goes, we do have lighting on all sides of the building.
Since I started, the motion lights in the back corners have been changed to
run dawn to dusk and extra lighting was added to one side of the building so
both sides are well lit, plus there are two large overhead lights on the
porch.  I am almost inclined to believe what Sharon said about less lighting
being more beneficial but I know I could never suggest that as a solution
after everyone has been taught the opposite for so long.  It was a
recommendation from Community Policing that suggested and had the district
install the extra lighting.

We have spoken to the groups of people who are often there and even tried to
involve them around the Museum.  We have one guy who helps our gardener in
the mornings. unfortunately, in the afternoon he also sits on the steps and
drinks beer.  Sometimes he even tries to pull a lawn chair onto the porch so
he can pass out in the sun.  There is another guy who claims to love the
museum and always picks up the garbage.  He also drew a happy face and wrote
"Hi Hazel" on the building in a sharpie marker last week.

I will also fully agree that fencing people out will never fix the problem
of a community, but at this point I am just too concerned about the welfare
of our heritage building to try and tackle solving the big picture problem
myself.    As suggested by Cuyler, we are currently working with Community
Services to ask these group what they want and why they are so drawn to the
museum.  I am convinced that it is both the shelter of the overhang as well
as the limited open hours ensuring they won't be disturbed.  Unfortunately,
even if we create an alternative area, I am not convinced it will replace
the museum as a hangout but rather just be an additional one, unless we do
something to lessen the draw of the museum building and make it more trouble
than it's worth to loiter.

I look forward to speaking to all the contacts that were suggested to me.
Thank you again for all your input on the matter thus far, I will gratefully
accept any additional comments or suggestions anyone else may have on the
subject.

Hazel Godley

Manager

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Operated by the Mission District Historical Society

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Subject: [BCMA] Building Security Issues

Please Help!

We are facing some security issues at our museum which pertain to the
outside space, the museum grounds.  Unfortunately, because of the location
and style of our building, as well as very limited open hours, it has become
somewhat of a local "hangout" where groups of street people will gather,
smoke, eat, spread their stuff out etc., along with other undesirable
activity, much illegal.  The worst part about it is that our 108 year old
building is at serious risk.  Cigarette butts are constantly snuffed out on
the wooden porch or flicked into the nearby bark mulch (even during a 35
degree summer day) plus excessive garbage is always left behind and
vandalism to the building is a constant problem; new "tags" are added daily
despite us constantly painting over them.  Sometimes dangerous garbage (drug
paraphernalia) is also left behind, leaving other members of the public as
risk. 

I have done a lot of research into possible solutions to the problem and
have come to the conclusion, after trying many more subtle approaches, that
the only way to keep this from happening is to have our grounds fenced in,
monitored for trespassing, and only open during the hours that the museum is
open.  However, our building (and the grounds) is owned by the District of
Mission and leased to the Historical Society for $1 per year, so I have run
into the argument that you cannot fence in "public" grounds.  As far as I'm
concernd, the grounds are just an extension of the Museum and if you can't
wander through the Museum (which is a public building) when it is closed,
why should you be able to wander through the grounds?

Does anyone else have this security situation in place?  Do you know of any
Museum's (in Canada) that do?  As in, the building is owned, but not run, by
the city/district/town and yet the grounds are fenced?  I am hoping to find
examples of where this does happen to present with my argument.  Could
anyone suggest any other Museums for me to contact that may have such a
system in place?

Please respond via the listserv or directly to info at missionmuseum.com 

Thank you in advance for any input on this matter, I appreciate any and all
help I can get!

Hazel Godley

Manager

 LOGOTYPE_ANTGOLOD

Operated by the Mission District Historical Society

604-826-1011

info at missionmuseum.com

www.missionmuseum.com <http://www.missionmuseum.com/>  

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