[Bcma-l] War Museum - Autonomy in research and interpretation for educational institutions?

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 I think museums should show the whole truth even if it is unpalatable =
to some.  Would you go to the Killing Fields in Cambodia and tell them =
to "tone down" their interpretive displays? =20

Yes, we carpet bombed German cities, in retaliation for the targeting of =
civilians by German forces.  Hundreds of thousands were killed.  An =
example of "total war," a doctrine which states that civilians are part =
of the social and industrial war machine and thus must be considered as =
enemy combatants.  Therefore, according to the strategic doctrines of =
the day, destroying German cities was perfectly legitimate as an act of =
war.  Besides, Nazi Germany was busy exterminating the Jews of Europe.  =
I think war museums should not try to impose any kind of moral judgement =
in their interpretation - the horrors of war speak for themselves and =
let the visitor make his or her own moral judgements or conclusions =
based on the information presented. =20

The USA not only firebombed Japanese cities like Tokyo, they also =
dropped 2 nuclear weapons on civilian targets during the war.  I wonder =
if they have these types of soul-searching dialogues in their museum =
community? =20
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  From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
  To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
  Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 3:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] War Museum - Autonomy in research and =
interpretation for educational institutions?


  But surely the truth remains the truth.  If you choose to censor the =
facts because of the fear of loss of funding, you are still masking the =
truth:  a deeply disturbing state of affairs for any institution which =
lists education as part of its mandate.  Surely the way forward would be =
to work with your funding agency (I admit, this could lead to a =
stale-mate) and educate them so that they realize that what you're =
attempting is not a personal attack, but a reflection on an historical =
incident which has a variety of sides to it, pro and con.  With =
consultation, incendiary or emotive language can be edited while the =
truth (the death of hundreds of thousands of unarmed and non-military =
citizens) remains intact. =20


  I feel very strongly about this topic.  Both my father and my husband =
fought in WWII (unusual for someone my age, I know) and both felt deeply =
ashamed of the allied carpet bombing of parts of Germany.  I agree with =
the letter writer in the Times Colonist this a.m. who stated, point =
blank, that the flight crews themselves were only obeying orders.  As =
for the men who dreamt up the atrocity..........




  Patricia Kidd, M.A., Cultural Historian
  1025 Moss Street
  Victoria B.C. Canada
  V8V 4P2
  (250)382-2543




  On 4-Sep-07, at 11:43 AM, bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca wrote:


    I believe that an educational institution is usually accountable to =
its funders and is not really autonomous. Any granting agency or =
benefactor has its things they want to fund. If you don=92t want to do =
those things, then of course you don=92t have to =85 but you also =
don=92t receive their funding.



    A city museum is accountable through the administration to its City =
Council which in turn is accountable to the citizens. Such a museum =
might wish to address issues of racial prejudice for example in that =
city, but the reality is that they might not be able to do so in the way =
that staff might want to. Sometimes it is in the timing. The Vancouver =
Museumnow has an exhibit about the Japanese in Vancouver but the issue =
of the forced evacuation in 1942 could not have been addressed by them =
at the time. Even a museum of an educational facility (e.g. MOA) might =
face censorship if staff decided in the name of educational freedom to =
address a very controversial and emotional topic. Sometimes it is =
self-censorship =96 reading the situation and realizing that discretion =
is the better part of valour sometimes. On the other hand, a Museum =
Director could stick their neck out.



    Colin MacGregor Stevens,

    Manager,

    New Westminster Museum and Archives,

    302 Royal Avenue,

    New Westminster, BC,

    V3L 1H7



    Phone Office:    604-527-4639

    Work Cellular : 604-830-6965

    Fax:                  604-527-4641

    E-mail: cstevens@newwestcity.ca

    Web Site: www.newwestminster.ca



    -----Original Message-----
    From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca =
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    Sent: September 1, 2007 2:23 AM
    To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca
    Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] War Museum



    This is an important issue and all of us as museum professionals =
should be concerned.   Irregardless of the source of funding we need to =
be autonomous in the research and interpretation that we offer as an =
educational, not a political, institution.

    James Tirrul-Jones
    Railway and Forestry Museum




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      I believe that BC Museums  and CMA should lend what little weight =
they have in support of the War Museums  independent ability to present =
history.

      The idea of political and  single interest groups lobbying in such =
a case is reprehensible, and I believe  we should make our views known.

      In a land where people  died over the issue of free speech, where =
is it, and where is the free [and  independent prerogative] in doing our =
job objectively?

      Our museum was subjected  to such pressure and caved in due to an =
in-camera meeting by our city council,  which went on to dictate as to =
what we could or could not exhibit. No members  of the public or =
delegations were allowed to debate such an important  issue.

      To our shame,  we accepted their ultimatum in, but it still does =
not destroy the  principle and concept of museum independence,.

      Our alternative  would have been to close the museum.

      This is an important  issue and I am surprised that I have not =
heard any pronouncements about this  by our museum organizations.

      Are we too busy planning  conferences and workshops and patting =
ourselves on the back to pay attention  to such an important issue?

      Larry A. Ewashen, Curator  & General Manager
      The Doukhobor Discovery Centre
      112 Heritage Way,  Castlegar V1N 4M5
      1-250-365-5327
      www.Doukhobor-Museum.org <http://www.Doukhobor-Museum.org>









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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Yes, we carpet bombed German cities, in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>The USA not only firebombed Japanese cities =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bcma-l] War =
Museum -=20
  Autonomy in research and interpretation for educational =
institutions?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>But surely the truth remains the truth.&nbsp; If you =
choose to=20
  censor the facts because of the fear of loss of funding, you are still =
masking=20
  the truth: &nbsp;a deeply disturbing state of affairs for any =
institution=20
  which lists education as part of its mandate.&nbsp; Surely the way =
forward=20
  would be to work with your funding agency (I admit, this could lead to =
a=20
  stale-mate) and educate them so that they realize that what you're =
attempting=20
  is not a personal attack, but a reflection on an historical incident =
which has=20
  a variety of sides to it, pro and con.&nbsp; With consultation, =
incendiary or=20
  emotive language can be edited while the truth (the death of hundreds =
of=20
  thousands of unarmed and non-military citizens) remains =
intact.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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  <DIV>I feel very strongly about this topic.&nbsp; Both my father and =
my=20
  husband fought in WWII (unusual for someone my age, I know) and both =
felt=20
  deeply ashamed of the allied carpet bombing of parts of Germany.&nbsp; =
I agree=20
  with the letter writer in the Times Colonist this a.m. who stated, =
point=20
  blank, that the flight crews themselves were only obeying =
orders.&nbsp; As for=20
  the men who dreamt up the atrocity..........</DIV>
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  <DIV>Patricia Kidd, M.A., Cultural Historian</DIV>
  <DIV>1025 Moss Street</DIV>
  <DIV>Victoria B.C. Canada</DIV>
  <DIV>V8V 4P2</DIV>
  <DIV>(250)382-2543</DIV><BR=20
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  <DIV>On 4-Sep-07, at 11:43 AM, <A=20
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I =
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    that an educational institution is usually accountable to its =
funders and is=20
    not really autonomous. Any granting agency or benefactor has its =
things they=20
    want to fund. If you don=92t want to do those things, then of course =
you don=92t=20
    have to =85 but you also don=92t receive their =
funding.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Arial"><SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-style-span=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A =
city=20
    museum is accountable through the administration to its City Council =
which=20
    in turn is accountable to the citizens. Such a museum might wish to =
address=20
    issues of racial prejudice for example in that city, but the reality =
is that=20
    they might not be able to do so in the way that staff might want to. =

    Sometimes it is in the timing. The </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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    exhibit about the Japanese in </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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    issue of the forced evacuation in 1942 could not have been addressed =
by them=20
    at the time. Even a museum of an educational facility (e.g. MOA) =
might face=20
    censorship if staff decided in the name of educational freedom to =
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    very controversial and emotional topic. Sometimes it is =
self-censorship =96=20
    reading the situation and realizing that discretion is the better =
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    valour sometimes. On the other hand, a Museum =
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AN><BR=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: =
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    [Bcma-l] War Museum</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
16px"><SPAN=20
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16px"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT=20
    face=3DVerdana size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-style-span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">This is an =
important=20
    issue and all of us as museum professionals should be concerned.=20
    &nbsp;&nbsp;Irregardless of the source of funding we need to be =
autonomous=20
    in the research and interpretation that we offer as an educational, =
not a=20
    political, institution.</SPAN><BR style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR =

    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3DApple-style-span=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">James Tirrul-Jones</SPAN><BR=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3DApple-style-span=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Railway and Forestry Museum</SPAN><BR =

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    <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
0.5in"><FONT=20
      face=3DVerdana size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">&nbsp;</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">&nbsp;</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
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FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I=20
      believe that BC Museums &nbsp;and CMA should lend what little =
weight they=20
      have in support of the War Museums &nbsp;independent ability to =
present=20
      history.</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The idea of =
political=20
      and &nbsp;single interest groups lobbying in such a case is =
reprehensible,=20
      and I believe &nbsp;we should make our views known.</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In a land =
where people=20
      &nbsp;died over the issue of free speech, where is it, and where =
is the=20
      free [and &nbsp;independent prerogative] in doing our job=20
      objectively?</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Our museum was =
subjected=20
      &nbsp;to such pressure and caved in due to an in-camera meeting by =
our=20
      city council, &nbsp;which went on to dictate as to what we could =
or could=20
      not exhibit. No members &nbsp;of the public or delegations were =
allowed to=20
      debate such an important &nbsp;issue.</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">To our shame, =
&nbsp;we=20
      accepted their ultimatum in, but it still does not destroy the=20
      &nbsp;principle and concept of museum independence,.</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Our =
alternative=20
      &nbsp;would have been to close the museum.</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">This is an =
important=20
      &nbsp;issue and I am surprised that I have not heard any =
pronouncements=20
      about this &nbsp;by our museum organizations.</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Are we too =
busy planning=20
      &nbsp;conferences and workshops and patting ourselves on the back =
to pay=20
      attention &nbsp;to such an important issue?</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Larry A. =
Ewashen,=20
      Curator &nbsp;&amp; General Manager</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The Doukhobor =
Discovery=20
      Centre</SPAN><BR style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">112 Heritage =
Way,=20
      &nbsp;Castlegar V1N 4M5</SPAN><BR=20
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      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">1-250-365-5327</SPAN><BR=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">www.Doukhobor-Museum.org=20
      </SPAN><A href=3D"http://www.Doukhobor-Museum.org"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; =
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      class=3DApple-style-span=20
      style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
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