[Bcma-l] War Museum - Autonomy in research and interpretation for educational institutions?
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I would like to clarify my position slightly - I did not mean to say =
that I agree with the position on the contentious interpretive panel - =
everything on said panel is true, but it is presented in a "biased and =
unbalanced" way. I have seen the panel myself and although it hardly =
gave me pause as I think back on it, I never reflected on how a Bomber =
Command veteran would see it. I did think it was a little incongruous. =
I think that it is good to show all sides of an issue and the human =
costs of war, but I would not call the bombing of German cities as part =
of total war "an Enduring Controversy." Although it seems creating =
something of an enduring controversial debate in the museum community!
Andrew R. Minigan
Curator
North Pacific Historic Fishing Village
PO Box 1109
1889 Skeena Drive
Port Edward BC V0V 1G0
Website: www.cannery.ca
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From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] War Museum - Autonomy in research and =
interpretation for educational institutions?
I think museums should show the whole truth even if it is unpalatable =
to some. Would you go to the Killing Fields in Cambodia and tell them =
to "tone down" their interpretive displays? =20
Yes, we carpet bombed German cities, in retaliation for the targeting =
of civilians by German forces. Hundreds of thousands were killed. An =
example of "total war," a doctrine which states that civilians are part =
of the social and industrial war machine and thus must be considered as =
enemy combatants. Therefore, according to the strategic doctrines of =
the day, destroying German cities was perfectly legitimate as an act of =
war. Besides, Nazi Germany was busy exterminating the Jews of Europe. =
I think war museums should not try to impose any kind of moral judgement =
in their interpretation - the horrors of war speak for themselves and =
let the visitor make his or her own moral judgements or conclusions =
based on the information presented. =20
The USA not only firebombed Japanese cities like Tokyo, they also =
dropped 2 nuclear weapons on civilian targets during the war. I wonder =
if they have these types of soul-searching dialogues in their museum =
community? =20
North Pacific Historic Fishing Village
PO Box 1109
1889 Skeena Drive
Port Edward BC V0V 1G0
Website: www.cannery.ca
Email: northpac@citytel.net
Site Phone: 250-628-3538=20
Fax: 250-628-3540
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] War Museum - Autonomy in research and =
interpretation for educational institutions?
But surely the truth remains the truth. If you choose to censor the =
facts because of the fear of loss of funding, you are still masking the =
truth: a deeply disturbing state of affairs for any institution which =
lists education as part of its mandate. Surely the way forward would be =
to work with your funding agency (I admit, this could lead to a =
stale-mate) and educate them so that they realize that what you're =
attempting is not a personal attack, but a reflection on an historical =
incident which has a variety of sides to it, pro and con. With =
consultation, incendiary or emotive language can be edited while the =
truth (the death of hundreds of thousands of unarmed and non-military =
citizens) remains intact. =20
I feel very strongly about this topic. Both my father and my =
husband fought in WWII (unusual for someone my age, I know) and both =
felt deeply ashamed of the allied carpet bombing of parts of Germany. I =
agree with the letter writer in the Times Colonist this a.m. who stated, =
point blank, that the flight crews themselves were only obeying orders. =
As for the men who dreamt up the atrocity..........
Patricia Kidd, M.A., Cultural Historian
1025 Moss Street
Victoria B.C. Canada
V8V 4P2
(250)382-2543
On 4-Sep-07, at 11:43 AM, bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca wrote:
I believe that an educational institution is usually accountable =
to its funders and is not really autonomous. Any granting agency or =
benefactor has its things they want to fund. If you don=92t want to do =
those things, then of course you don=92t have to =85 but you also =
don=92t receive their funding.
=20
A city museum is accountable through the administration to its =
City Council which in turn is accountable to the citizens. Such a museum =
might wish to address issues of racial prejudice for example in that =
city, but the reality is that they might not be able to do so in the way =
that staff might want to. Sometimes it is in the timing. The Vancouver =
Museumnow has an exhibit about the Japanese in Vancouver but the issue =
of the forced evacuation in 1942 could not have been addressed by them =
at the time. Even a museum of an educational facility (e.g. MOA) might =
face censorship if staff decided in the name of educational freedom to =
address a very controversial and emotional topic. Sometimes it is =
self-censorship =96 reading the situation and realizing that discretion =
is the better part of valour sometimes. On the other hand, a Museum =
Director could stick their neck out.
=20
Colin MacGregor Stevens,
Manager,
New Westminster Museum and Archives,
302 Royal Avenue,
New Westminster, BC,
V3L 1H7
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Phone Office: 604-527-4639
Work Cellular : 604-830-6965
Fax: 604-527-4641
E-mail: cstevens@newwestcity.ca
Web Site: www.newwestminster.ca
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-----Original Message-----
From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca =
[mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca]=20
Sent: September 1, 2007 2:23 AM
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] War Museum
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This is an important issue and all of us as museum professionals =
should be concerned. Irregardless of the source of funding we need to =
be autonomous in the research and interpretation that we offer as an =
educational, not a political, institution.
James Tirrul-Jones
Railway and Forestry Museum
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I believe that BC Museums and CMA should lend what little =
weight they have in support of the War Museums independent ability to =
present history.
The idea of political and single interest groups lobbying in =
such a case is reprehensible, and I believe we should make our views =
known.
In a land where people died over the issue of free speech, =
where is it, and where is the free [and independent prerogative] in =
doing our job objectively?
Our museum was subjected to such pressure and caved in due to =
an in-camera meeting by our city council, which went on to dictate as =
to what we could or could not exhibit. No members of the public or =
delegations were allowed to debate such an important issue.
To our shame, we accepted their ultimatum in, but it still does =
not destroy the principle and concept of museum independence,.
Our alternative would have been to close the museum.
This is an important issue and I am surprised that I have not =
heard any pronouncements about this by our museum organizations.
Are we too busy planning conferences and workshops and patting =
ourselves on the back to pay attention to such an important issue?
Larry A. Ewashen, Curator & General Manager
The Doukhobor Discovery Centre
112 Heritage Way, Castlegar V1N 4M5
1-250-365-5327
www.Doukhobor-Museum.org <http://www.Doukhobor-Museum.org>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>I would like to clarify my position slightly - =
I did not=20
mean to say that I agree with the position on the contentious =
interpretive panel=20
- everything on said panel is true, but it is presented in a "biased and =
unbalanced" way. I have seen the panel myself and although it =
hardly gave=20
me pause as I think back on it, I never reflected on how a Bomber =
Command=20
veteran would see it. I did think it was a little =
incongruous. I=20
think that it is good to show all sides of an issue and the human costs =
of war,=20
but I would not call the bombing of German cities as part of total war =
"an=20
Enduring Controversy." Although it seems creating=20
something</FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma> of an enduring controversial =
debate in=20
the museum community!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Andrew R. Minigan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Curator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>North Pacific Historic Fishing Village<BR>PO Box 1109<BR>1889 =
Skeena=20
Drive<BR>Port Edward BC V0V 1G0<BR>Website: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.cannery.ca">www.cannery.ca</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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2007 12:26=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bcma-l] War =
Museum -=20
Autonomy in research and interpretation for educational =
institutions?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma> I think museums should show the whole =
truth even=20
if it is unpalatable to some. Would you go to the Killing Fields =
in=20
Cambodia and tell them to "tone down" their interpretive =
displays? =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>Yes, we carpet bombed German cities, in =
retaliation for=20
the targeting of civilians by German forces. Hundreds of =
thousands were=20
killed. An example of "total war," a doctrine which =
states=20
that civilians are part of the social and industrial war machine and =
thus must=20
be considered as enemy combatants. Therefore, according to the =
strategic=20
doctrines of the day, destroying German cities was perfectly =
legitimate as an=20
act of war. Besides, Nazi Germany was busy exterminating the =
Jews of=20
Europe. I think war museums should not try to impose any kind of =
moral=20
judgement in their interpretation - the horrors of war speak for=20
themselves and let the visitor make his or her own moral judgements or =
conclusions based on the information presented. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma>The USA not only firebombed Japanese cities =
like Tokyo,=20
they also dropped 2 nuclear weapons on civilian targets during the =
war. =20
I wonder if they have these types of soul-searching dialogues in their =
museum=20
community? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>North Pacific Historic Fishing Village<BR>PO Box 1109<BR>1889 =
Skeena=20
Drive<BR>Port Edward BC V0V 1G0<BR>Website: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.cannery.ca">www.cannery.ca</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Email: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:northpac@citytel.net">northpac@citytel.net</A><BR>Site =
Phone:=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 04, =
2007 3:50=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bcma-l] War =
Museum -=20
Autonomy in research and interpretation for educational =
institutions?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>But surely the truth remains the truth. If you =
choose=20
to censor the facts because of the fear of loss of funding, you are =
still=20
masking the truth: a deeply disturbing state of affairs for =
any=20
institution which lists education as part of its mandate. =
Surely the=20
way forward would be to work with your funding agency (I admit, this =
could=20
lead to a stale-mate) and educate them so that they realize that =
what you're=20
attempting is not a personal attack, but a reflection on an =
historical=20
incident which has a variety of sides to it, pro and con. With =
consultation, incendiary or emotive language can be edited while the =
truth=20
(the death of hundreds of thousands of unarmed and non-military =
citizens)=20
remains intact. =20
<DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>I feel very strongly about this topic. Both my father and =
my=20
husband fought in WWII (unusual for someone my age, I know) and both =
felt=20
deeply ashamed of the allied carpet bombing of parts of =
Germany. I=20
agree with the letter writer in the Times Colonist this a.m. who =
stated,=20
point blank, that the flight crews themselves were only obeying=20
orders. As for the men who dreamt up the =
atrocity..........</DIV>
<DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
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<DIV>Patricia Kidd, M.A., Cultural Historian</DIV>
<DIV>1025 Moss Street</DIV>
<DIV>Victoria B.C. Canada</DIV>
<DIV>V8V 4P2</DIV>
<DIV>(250)382-2543</DIV><BR=20
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<DIV>On 4-Sep-07, at 11:43 AM, <A=20
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Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I believe=20
that an educational institution is usually accountable to its =
funders and=20
is not really autonomous. Any granting agency or benefactor has =
its things=20
they want to fund. If you don=92t want to do those things, then of =
course=20
you don=92t have to =85 but you also don=92t receive their=20
funding.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">A city=20
museum is accountable through the administration to its City =
Council which=20
in turn is accountable to the citizens. Such a museum might wish =
to=20
address issues of racial prejudice for example in that city, but =
the=20
reality is that they might not be able to do so in the way that =
staff=20
might want to. Sometimes it is in the timing. The=20
</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Arial"><SPAN=20
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Arial">Vancouver</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
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face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">now has=20
an exhibit about the Japanese in </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,128); FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> but the=20
issue of the forced evacuation in 1942 could not have been =
addressed by=20
them at the time. Even a museum of an educational facility (e.g. =
MOA)=20
might face censorship if staff decided in the name of educational =
freedom=20
to address a very controversial and emotional topic. Sometimes it =
is=20
self-censorship =96 reading the situation and realizing that =
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bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca [<A=20
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Tahoma"> <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca</A></SP=
AN><BR=20
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">Subject:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> Re:=20
[Bcma-l] War Museum</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
16px"><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; =
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face=3DVerdana size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN =
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">This is an important issue and all =
of us as=20
museum professionals should be concerned. Irregardless =
of the=20
source of funding we need to be autonomous in the research and=20
interpretation that we offer as an educational, not a political,=20
institution.</SPAN><BR style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">James Tirrul-Jones</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Railway and Forestry =
Museum</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
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0.5in"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> </SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"> </SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I believe =
that BC=20
Museums and CMA should lend what little weight they have =
in=20
support of the War Museums independent ability to present=20
history.</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The idea of =
political=20
and single interest groups lobbying in such a case is=20
reprehensible, and I believe we should make our views=20
known.</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In a land =
where people=20
died over the issue of free speech, where is it, and where =
is the=20
free [and independent prerogative] in doing our job=20
objectively?</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Our museum =
was=20
subjected to such pressure and caved in due to an =
in-camera=20
meeting by our city council, which went on to dictate as =
to what=20
we could or could not exhibit. No members of the public or =
delegations were allowed to debate such an important=20
issue.</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">To our =
shame, we=20
accepted their ultimatum in, but it still does not destroy the=20
principle and concept of museum independence,.</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Our =
alternative=20
would have been to close the museum.</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">This is an =
important=20
issue and I am surprised that I have not heard any =
pronouncements=20
about this by our museum organizations.</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Are we too =
busy=20
planning conferences and workshops and patting ourselves =
on the=20
back to pay attention to such an important =
issue?</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></FONT><BR=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><FONT color=3Dgreen><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Larry A. =
Ewashen,=20
Curator & General Manager</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The =
Doukhobor=20
Discovery Centre</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">112 Heritage =
Way,=20
Castlegar V1N 4M5</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">1-250-365-5327</SPAN><BR=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">www.Doukhobor-Museum.org=20
</SPAN><A href=3D"http://www.Doukhobor-Museum.org"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-style-span=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; =
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underline"><http://www.Doukhobor-Museum.org></SPAN></A><SPAN=20
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style=3D"COLOR: rgb(0,128,0); FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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