[Bcma-l] why museums? Access vs. preservation and can we justify public funding if something is not on display?
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I would like to point out that museums are not necessarily for the
preservation of those things that are treasured; they are for
understanding the world around us, for learning. I fear that should an
accreditation system come into place, that only those things deemed
'treasures' will form the bases for such a system. As one blues singer
put it, "Now the best, later for the garbage". I concur totally with
James and Collin's ideas about the primacy of the collections over any
other aspect of Museum keeping - whether that be in the form of the
built environment, a landscape, an artifact, a piece of art work. I
also understand the need to make decisions - unbound hoarding does not
always lead to sound fiscal decisions - I wish I had a dollar for every
piano that I have been offered.
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While some of the dialogue has strayed into the area of how to make
people come to the museum and relevancy to society, others are bemoaning
the fact that Government support has been pulled or in the case of the
start of this year's dialogue, the inconvenience of student funding in
the manner in which it is delivered. The suggestion that I made earlier
about the possibility of establishing an agency outside of Government to
A) hold and distribute funding, and B) establish the criteria for being
a subscribing member is still a valid option in my mind. Government
agencies have tried to accommodate the shortfalls of funding that comes
late by changing some of their adjudication timing and in case of the
BCArts council, the extension of funding over several years, it is
obviously not meeting the needs of the community, principally because
Government can come along and change the rules whenever it is convenient
without regard for the constituency. Again, reasons for having a
separate from Government agency may not be that strong, as agencies that
are separate are also at the whim of the economy - however,
constitutionally structured elements of any agency could mitigate
against having to cut back or to wait until the annual April budgetary
votes in the Legislature and Parliament. The other aspect that will be
curtailed and probably good for the Museum community is not having to
apply for funding that supports whatever the flavour of the month is.
Too often, flavour of the month, while trying to address a perceived
lack, such as not enough jobs for youth, or not enough general
recognition of minorities and their issues, will take museums in
directions that do not necessarily address some of their basic needs. I
can see a place for Government placing funding into such an agency to
address such issues in a museum or gallery, but when it becomes the
major element, there will be problems - problems that compound, rather
than support an institution's basic issues.
W. (Bill) G. Quackenbush, Wells Historical Society email:
Bill.Quackenbush@barkerville.ca www.wellsmuseum.ca=20
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From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca
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Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:43 PM
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] why museums? Access vs. preservation and can we
justify public funding if something is not on display?
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Regarding the last sentence in the reply below. I meant 'quality' and
I am glad that Colin would make the same choice as I. The need for
preservation of our material culture might be considered a first
priority for museums. The number of visitors would rate lower. This is
reflected in places like Lascaux as Colin rightly pointed out. This
ability to insure the survival of all that we hold most important in
society could be a major and compelling reason for taxpayer support.
This is only true if we are doing this and doing it right (museum
standards).
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I might also add that the preservation and protection of our material
culture is not possible as a private enterprise. Just as public safety
(police) is not possible as a private enterprise it must be funded and
supported by the community as a whole and 'owned' and by the community
as a whole. For example in the US it is unthinkable that the original
US Constitution would be in the control of any private enterprise just
as it is assumed that the cost of its preservation would be guaranteed
by the people of the Nation that considers this an important example of
the material culture of the nation.
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cheers
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james tirrul-jones
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On 1-Sep-09, at 11:58 AM, bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca wrote:
James Tirrul-Jones brings up some interesting points.
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The Lascaux Cave is generally closed to visitors because of the damage
being caused by carbon-dioxide in the breath from visitors.
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en/ They have created
a replica site for visitors as a result. Perhaps the Egyptian ship is
generally closed for similar reasons?
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Access vs. preservation is a constant point of discussion for museums,
archives and art galleries. If the Mona Lisa was painted on silk or was
subject to other major fading problems, you can be sure that display
access would be severely limited. The US Constitution is I understand
shaded most of the time and exhibited in low light. What if it or the
Magna Carta could not be displayed at all - would they be worth saving
at public expense? I would argue "yes." We should not scrap a treasure
simply because it cannot be displayed all the time. Technology improves
and the new display cases for documents such as a country's Constitution
are a far cry from those of 50 or 100 years ago. What will the future
bring I wonder?
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As we all know, if delicate things were always put on display, then
current generations could benefit by seeing them, but future generations
would be deprived forever. For example I have a once lovely dress in New
Westminster Museum & Archives that was displayed for many years in a
bedroom in Irving House in front of a window and the dress is now
ruined. The silk on the back of the dress has laddered (disintegrated)
and faded it is beyond economical repair.
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Images of delicate items can be shared and they can be studied by
experts. Who knows, in the future, new technology might provide
solutions (e.g. rebreathers which do not exhaust Carbon Dioxide gas for
visitors to Lascaux Cave.) While only a substitute for the real thing it
is great that photography is advanced as it is and that the Internet
facilitates "virtual access" to museum objects that are too delicate to
display or which can only be displayed under severely restricted
conditions. Although access is very important for us in order to justify
public funding, we also have a duty to preserve these treasures for
future generations. Sharing the knowledge and images is critical, but
sometimes, one just has to say no to displaying the original or to
severely limit it. We may be a "consumer society" in general but we
should not consume our treasures.
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In general increasing visitation numbers is good, but sometimes, for
conservation reasons, that is not advisable. Many of us run, or have
been to, museums and historic sites where access today is less that it
was in past years in response primarily to damage caused by visitors, be
it deliberate or unintended. Even durable stone sites close off areas
that were formerly accessible to visitors. I recall walking in the home
where Beethoven was born in Bonn, Germany. There had been so many visors
that the original (?) wood floor boards were so worn that the harder
knots stood up like volcanoes. I would not be surprised if these rooms
were now cordoned off as we have done at Irving House.
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Sometimes visitor safety is the main issue such as in the tunnels at
Vimy Ridge in France. There is a lot of graffiti by the WWI soldiers who
were waiting for the April 1917 attack and some of it is quite beautiful
e.g. regimental crests carved into the chalk walls. Part of the Grange
Tunnel has been stabilized and is open with guided tours but the other
tunnels are closed except to occasional researchers and TV crews. Should
these tunnels be preserved even though the public cannot enter them? I
would argue "yes."
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James' comment "If the Museum could both increase the number of visitors
and decrease the cost and quality of the collections and collections
maintenance is this a preferable option?" is puzzling as I would think
one would not want to sacrifice the quality of collections. Perhaps he
meant "quantity"?
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Colin MacGregor Stevens,
Manager,
New Westminster Museum and Archives,
302 Royal Avenue,
New Westminster, BC,
V3L 1H7
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Phone Office: 604-527-4639
Work Cellular : 604-830-6965
Fax: 604-527-4641
E-mail: cstevens@newwestcity.ca <mailto:cstevens@newwestcity.ca>=20
Web Site: www.newwestminster.ca
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From: bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:53 AM
To: bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca
Subject: Re: [Bcma-l] why museums?
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Not everything that can be counted counts,=20
and not everything that counts can be counted." =20
Albert Einstein -footnote to Judy Campbell's e mail.
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Lascaux Cave, one the most important historic sites in the world, is
generally closed to visitors. A museum at the foot of the pyramids
houses a 3000 year old ship. This museum is generally closed to
visitors.
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Do any of our museums do anything that is of significant value to
society without a single visitor? Does your museum do anything that is
of significant value without a single visitor? If People were not
allowed to view the original Mona Lisa would this work of art then
become unworthy of state funding for its preservation? If the Museum
could both increase the number of visitors and decrease the cost and
quality of the collections and collections maintenance is this a
preferable option? Something to think about.
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cheers
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James Tirrul-Jones
On 28-Aug-09, at 3:20 PM, bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca wrote:
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Island Mountain Arts just received a similar notice and is in a similar
position.
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Judy Campbell
Box 181, Wells, BC, V0K 2R0
voice: 250.994.3349
fax: 250.994.3358
jcampbell@wellsbc.com
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"Not everything that can be counted counts,=20
and not everything that counts can be counted." =20
Albert Einstein
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I would like to point out that museums are not necessarily for =
the
preservation of those things that are treasured; they are for =
understanding the
world around us, for learning. I fear that should an accreditation =
system
come into place, that only those things deemed ‘treasures’ =
will
form the bases for such a system. As one blues singer put it, =
“Now
the best, later for the garbage”. I concur totally with =
James and
Collin’s ideas about the primacy of the collections over any other =
aspect
of Museum keeping – whether that be in the form of the built =
environment,
a landscape, an artifact, a piece of art work. I also understand =
the need
to make decisions – unbound hoarding does not always lead to sound =
fiscal
decisions – I wish I had a dollar for every piano that I have been
offered.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>While some of the dialogue has strayed into the area of how to =
make
people come to the museum and relevancy to society, others are bemoaning =
the
fact that Government support has been pulled or in the case of the start =
of
this year’s dialogue, the inconvenience of student funding in the =
manner
in which it is delivered. The suggestion that I made earlier about =
the possibility
of establishing an agency outside of Government to A) hold and =
distribute
funding, and B) establish the criteria for being a subscribing member is =
still
a valid option in my mind. Government agencies have tried to =
accommodate the
shortfalls of funding that comes late by changing some of their =
adjudication
timing and in case of the BCArts council, the extension of funding over =
several
years, it is obviously not meeting the needs of the community, =
principally
because Government can come along and change the rules whenever it is
convenient without regard for the constituency. Again, reasons for =
having
a separate from Government agency may not be that strong, as agencies =
that are
separate are also at the whim of the economy – however, =
constitutionally
structured elements of any agency could mitigate against having to cut =
back or
to wait until the annual April budgetary votes in the Legislature and
Parliament. The other aspect that will be curtailed and probably =
good for
the Museum community is not having to apply for funding that supports =
whatever
the flavour of the month is. Too often, flavour of the month, =
while
trying to address a perceived lack, such as not enough jobs for youth, =
or not
enough general recognition of minorities and their issues, will take =
museums in
directions that do not necessarily address some of their basic =
needs. I
can see a place for Government placing funding into such an agency to =
address
such issues in a museum or gallery, but when it becomes the major =
element,
there will be problems – problems that compound, rather than =
support an
institution’s basic issues.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>W. (Bill) G. Quackenbush, Wells Historical Society =
email:
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www.wellsmuseum.ca</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
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bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca
[mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September =
01, 2009
8:43 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bcma-l] why =
museums?
Access vs. preservation and can we justify public funding if something =
is not on
display?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Regarding the last sentence in the reply below. I meant =
'quality'
and I am glad that Colin would make the same choice as I. =
The need
for preservation of our material culture might be considered a =
first
priority for museums. The number of visitors would rate lower. =
This
is reflected in places like <st1:place w:st=3D"on">Lascaux</st1:place> =
as Colin
rightly pointed out. This ability to insure the survival of all =
that we
hold most important in society could be a major and compelling reason =
for
taxpayer support. This is only true if we are doing this and doing =
it
right (museum standards).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I might also add that the preservation and protection of our =
material
culture is not possible as a private enterprise. Just as public =
safety
(police) is not possible as a private enterprise it must be funded and
supported by the community as a whole and 'owned' and by the community =
as a
whole. For example in the US it is unthinkable that the original =
US
Constitution would be in the control of any private enterprise just as =
it is
assumed that the cost of its preservation would be guaranteed by the =
people of
the Nation that considers this an important example of the material =
culture of
the nation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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interesting points.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
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w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Lascaux</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> <st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">Cave</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'> is generally closed to =
visitors because
of the damage being caused by carbon-dioxide in the breath from =
visitors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
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href=3D"http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en/">http://www=
.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en/</a>
They have created a replica site for visitors as a result. Perhaps the =
Egyptian
ship is generally closed for similar =
reasons?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Access vs. preservation is a =
constant
point of discussion for museums, archives and art galleries. If the Mona =
Lisa
was painted on silk or was subject to other major fading problems, you =
can be
sure that display access would be severely limited. The US Constitution =
is I
understand shaded most of the time and exhibited in low light. What if =
it or
the Magna Carta could not be displayed at all – would they be =
worth
saving at public expense? I would argue “yes.” We should not =
scrap
a treasure simply because it cannot be displayed all the time. =
Technology
improves and the new display cases for documents such as a =
country’s
Constitution are a far cry from those of 50 or 100 years ago. What will =
the
future bring I wonder?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As we all know, if delicate =
things were
always put on display, then current generations could benefit by seeing =
them,
but future generations would be deprived forever. For example I have a =
once
lovely dress in New Westminster Museum & Archives that was displayed =
for
many years in a bedroom in Irving House in front of a window and the =
dress is
now ruined. The silk on the back of the dress has laddered =
(disintegrated) and
faded it is beyond economical repair.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Images of delicate items can be =
shared and
they can be studied by experts. Who knows, in the future, new technology =
might
provide solutions (e.g. rebreathers which do not exhaust Carbon Dioxide =
gas for
visitors to<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st=3D"on">Lascaux</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">Cave</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.)
While only a substitute for the real thing it is great that photography =
is
advanced as it is and that the Internet facilitates “virtual
access” to museum objects that are too delicate to display or =
which can
only be displayed under severely restricted conditions. Although access =
is very
important for us in order to justify public funding, we also have a duty =
to
preserve these treasures for future generations. Sharing the knowledge =
and images
is critical, but sometimes, one just has to say no to displaying the =
original
or to severely limit it. We may be a “consumer society” in =
general
but we should not consume our treasures.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>In general increasing visitation =
numbers
is good, but sometimes, for conservation reasons, that is not advisable. =
Many
of us run, or have been to, museums and historic sites where access =
today is
less that it was in past years in response primarily to damage caused by
visitors, be it deliberate or unintended. Even durable stone sites close =
off
areas that were formerly accessible to visitors. I recall walking in the =
home
where Beethoven was born in<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:place
w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Bonn</st1:City>, <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">Germany</st1:country-region></st1:place>.
There had been so many visors that the original (?) wood floor boards =
were so
worn that the harder knots stood up like volcanoes. I would not be =
surprised if
these rooms were now cordoned off as we have done at Irving =
House.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Sometimes visitor safety is the =
main issue
such as in the tunnels at Vimy Ridge in<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region>. There
is a lot of graffiti by the WWI soldiers who were waiting for the April =
1917
attack and some of it is quite beautiful e.g. regimental crests carved =
into the
chalk walls. Part of the Grange Tunnel has been stabilized and is open =
with
guided tours but the other tunnels are closed except to occasional =
researchers
and TV crews. Should these tunnels be preserved even though the public =
cannot
enter them? I would argue =
“yes.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>James’ comment “If =
the Museum
could both increase the number of visitors and<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>decrease</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>the cost and<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>quality</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>of the collections and =
collections
maintenance is this a preferable option?” is puzzling as I would =
think
one would not want to sacrifice the quality of collections. Perhaps he =
meant
“quantity”?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font =
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style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Colin MacGregor =
Stevens,</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
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color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>New
Westminster</span></font></st1:PlaceName><span =
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color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font></span><st1:PlaceType
w:st=3D"on"><font color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'>Museum</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><spa=
n
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font></span><font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>and Archives,</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>New
Westminster</span></font></st1:City><font color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'>,<span
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w:st=3D"on">BC</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'>,</span></font><font =
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color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
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604-527-4639</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Work Cellular : =
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color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><a =
href=3D"mailto:cstevens@newwestcity.ca"><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>cstevens@newwestcity.ca</spa=
n></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><a =
href=3D"http://www.newwestminster.ca">www.newwestminster.ca</a><o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><image001.jpg></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.b=
c.ca</a><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.b=
c.ca</a>]<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Saturday, August 29, =
2009<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>12:53 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca</a><br>=
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Bcma-l] why =
museums?</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Not everything that can be =
counted
counts, <br>
and not everything that counts can be counted." <br>
Albert Einstein -footnote to Judy Campbell's e =
mail.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName =
w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3
color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Lascaux</span></font></st1:PlaceNa=
me><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span></font></span><st1:PlaceType
w:st=3D"on"><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cave</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><font=
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'>, one the most important =
historic sites
in the world, is generally closed to visitors. A museum at the =
foot of
the pyramids houses a 3000 year old ship. This museum is generally =
closed
to visitors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Do any of our museums do anything =
that is
of significant value to society without a single visitor? Does =
your
museum do anything that is of significant value without a single =
visitor?
If People were not allowed to view the original Mona Lisa would =
this work
of art then become unworthy of state funding for its preservation? =
If the
Museum could both increase the number of visitors and decrease the cost =
and
quality of the collections and collections maintenance is this a =
preferable
option? Something to think about.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>James =
Tirrul-Jones<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>28-Aug-09,
at 3:20 PM,<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.b=
c.ca</a><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></p>
</div>
</div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p=
>
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<span style=3D'orphans: 2;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: =
0px;
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: =
none;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;word-spacing:
0px'>
<div link=3Dblue bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" vlink=3Dpurple>
<div>
<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Island</span></font></st1:PlaceType><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
=
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f=
ont></span><st1:PlaceType
w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
=
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mountain</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st=
1:place><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f=
ont></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Arts just received a similar notice and is in a similar =
position.</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack
face=3DHelvetica><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span=
></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DHelvetica><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span=
></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack face=3DHelvetica><span
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Judy =
Campbell<br>
<st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street w:st=3D"on">Box =
181</st1:Street>,<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Wells</st1:City>,<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">BC</st1:State>,<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:PostalCode =
w:st=3D"on">V0K 2R0</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><br>
voice: 250.994.3349<br>
fax: 250.994.3358<br>
<a =
href=3D"mailto:jcampbell@wellsbc.com">jcampbell@wellsbc.com</a></span></f=
ont><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DHelvetica><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span=
></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
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<div style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblack face=3DHelvetica><span
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>"Not =
everything
that can be counted counts,<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br>
and not everything that counts can be counted." <span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br>
Albert Einstein</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>----- Original Message =
-----</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-at=
tachment:
initial;-webkit-background-clip: initial;-webkit-background-origin: =
initial'>
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style=3D'margin-left:.5in;background-image:initial;background-repeat:init=
ial;
background-attachment:initial;-webkit-background-clip: =
initial;-webkit-background-origin: initial'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> </span></font></span><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a
href=3D"mailto:bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca"
title=3D"bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l-admin@museumsassn.bc.ca</=
a></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>To:</span></font></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f=
ont></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><a href=3D"mailto:bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca"
title=3D"bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca">bcma-l@museumsassn.bc.ca</a></span></f=
ont><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>Sent:</span></font></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f=
ont></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Thursday, August 27, 2009<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>4:13
PM</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>Subject:</span></font></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f=
ont></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>[Bcma-l] Gaming Funding denied</span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=3Dblack
face=3DHelvetica><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> </span=
></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#8064a2" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#8064A2'>We just =
received
notice that we will not be receiving gaming funding. This represents 13% =
of our
total budget and 40% of our programming budget. No appeals or reviews =
are
allowed.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#8064a2" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#8064A2'>Raine<u1:p></u=
1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#8064a2" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#8064A2'><u1:p> </=
u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3D"#76923c" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#76923C'>Raine =
Mckay<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3D"#76923c" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#76923C'>Executive<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Director<u1:p></u1:p></span></=
font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 color=3D"#76923c" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#76923C'>Craft Council =
of BC<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address =
w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D1
color=3D"#76923c" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#76923C'>1386 Cartwright =
Street<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><font =
size=3D1
color=3D"#76923c" face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#76923C'>Vancouver</span></font></st1:City><font size=3D1 =
color=3D"#76923c"
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#76923C'>,<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">BC</st1:State> <span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><st1:PostalCode =
w:st=3D"on">V6H =
3R8<u1:p></u1:p></st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#76923C'>ph =
604.687.6511<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><u1:p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></f=
ont><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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